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===Options to look into===
===Options to look into===
 
====Bookkeeping====
*Quickbooks
*Quickbooks
*<strike>Hacker Dojo software</strike> - turns out this is just for billing.
*<strike>Hacker Dojo software</strike> - turns out this is just for billing.
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** http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2382514,00.asp?obref=obinsite
** http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2382514,00.asp?obref=obinsite


 
====Billing & Payment processing====
Billing Options:
*[http://wepay.com WePay]
 
** Billing, no bookkeeping.
*WePay
** http://wepay.com
** Billing, does not look like it does much accounting wise.
** Donations https://www.wepay.com/about/why_donations
** Donations https://www.wepay.com/about/why_donations
** Request Money https://www.wepay.com/about/why_bills
** Request Money https://www.wepay.com/about/why_bills
** Recurring Invoices (does not have?)
** Recurring payments
** Has fees (BOO) https://www.wepay.com/about/fees
** Has fees (3.5%, comparable to paypal) https://www.wepay.com/about/fees
** API https://www.wepay.com/developer/reference
** API https://www.wepay.com/developer/reference
** Formstack integration http://blog.formstack.com/2010/12/14/capture-data-and-collect-money-with-formstack-wepay/
** Formstack integration http://blog.formstack.com/2010/12/14/capture-data-and-collect-money-with-formstack-wepay/
* Chargify 
* [http://chargify.com/ Chargify]
** http://chargify.com/
** Recurring Billing http://chargify.com/features/recurring-billing-system/
** Recurring Billing http://chargify.com/features/recurring-billing-system/
* Spreedly
* [http://spreedly.com/ Spreedly] - Recurring Billing
** http://spreedly.com/
* [http://recurly.com/ Recurly] - Recurring billing
** Recurring Billing
* [http://cheddargetter.com/ CheddarGetter]
* Recurly
** http://recurly.com/
** Recurring billing
* CheddarGetter
** http://cheddargetter.com/
** Cash in general
** Cash in general
* PintPay  
* [https://pintpay.com/ PintPay]
** https://pintpay.com/
*[http://www.mazooma.com/merchants.asp Mazooma] - online service for bank account transfers.
**can't find much info on creating a merchant account without actually signing up. Annoying FAQ.
**accepts [http://www.mazooma.com/supportedbanks.asp most big banks]. Credit unions probably screwed.
*[http://www.moneybookers.com/ads/merchant-account/us/direct-payment-processing/ MoneyBookers] - online payments
**Looks like a pretty direct paypal substitute
**Supports recurring payments
**In the USA, accepts visa, mastercard, and bank transfers
***[http://www.moneybookers.com/ads/merchant-account/us/payment-options/ Uses Mazooma for bank transfers]
**Good international support for payment systems
**[http://www.moneybookers.com/ads/merchant-account/us/fees/ Fees] include a flat $0.29 + 2.9%
***There are additional fees for some transaction types. Very confusing fee structure.
**[https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=laundering Money laundering policy!] - honestly these guys come off as corporate dicks. Anyone have positive things to say about them?
*[http://flattr.com/support/faq Flattr] - micropayment system
**Uses Moneybookers or PayPal to transfer funds.
**10% fee.

Revision as of 21:32, 28 August 2011

New Accounting System

Minimum Requirements

Following are the features that we need to keep track of our basic finances:

  • import and reconcile transactions (Xero is TERRIBLE at this) from
    • Wells Fargo,
    • Paypal
    • Square.
  • keep repeating invoices for membership dues and an option to have the member invoiced automatically via email.
  • some smart suggestions to reconcile incoming transactions with their matching invoices (xero is betarded at this. It searches only by amount, not by name and amount)
  • categories for flagging transactions as various types of expenses and income to make taxes easier
  • custom categories / tagging to track income/expenses for sub-projects (like the Noisebridge Tor project) separately from the general fund
  • some reasonably convenient way to output data (graphs and reports would be nice, but good clean csv files would do. I can matplotlib that shit.)
  • clear tracking of unpaid invoices
  • Reasonably forgiving and customizable rules system (i.e. xero has logical rules for automating reconciliation but won't let you create rules to reconcile against created invoices, only to create new transactions)
  • Reasonable batch edit UI (i.e. xero won't let you delete invoices once created, you can only void them, one at a time, and it's 4 clicks per void. Not A Feature.)
  • generate receipts easily
  • web-based or linux-compatible local app. Some sort of remote data storage and ability to access from multiple machines is required. (Dropbox?)

Bonus Features

These are in order of priority. Lacking any of these is not a deal breaker, but we really hope for the new system to include some of the higher-priority extras.

  1. API
  2. direct access to the full details of paypal or square transactions (i.e. notes to the payee, etc)
  3. really smart algorithms for invoice reconciliation, alteration and deletion (i.e. delete invoices for this member during these dates or change the invoice amount on individual invoices without affecting repeating invoices)
  4. an interface which isn't bleeding edge flash that trips up in Linux.

Options to look into

Bookkeeping

Billing & Payment processing